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Post by Man in Mask on Jul 16, 2011 16:57:04 GMT -5
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Post by Caleb Danvers on Jul 16, 2011 22:04:19 GMT -5
Just so everyone knows (as you all know i've been working a lot), mine will be posted tomorrow after work, so probably sometime from 9:30-11 EST time. Sorry to delay it a bit, I don't want you to all think i'm just not doing it, though.
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Post by Anna Ivers on Jul 16, 2011 22:19:15 GMT -5
Same for me.
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Post by Caleb Danvers on Jul 17, 2011 22:33:23 GMT -5
Alright, so I guess i'm first, so here goes nothing. I don't want to make this too long because I know no one likes to read a long drawn-out statement. I do wish I had more time to put into this but with my hectic work schedule I don't. I know most of you either A) Have an idea what you want to do already with this vote or B) Have questions you want answered specifically to help determine your vote, so I'd like to give a brief overview of my game. When it first started, I was put on the "Wizards" tribe. During my short stay on that tribe, my tribe won every single Immunity Challenge we competed in -- and thankfully so. It turns out that there was a three person pre-alliance on that tribe of John, Sarah, and Eva that would have controlled the votes easily. It's been confirmed that had we lost a challenge, I would have stayed over Nancy, but i'm still glad we won all of them to be safe rather than sorry. It's the best thing I could have done for my game at that stage and it was accomplished. Prior to the tribe switch, John proposed an alliance with myself and Stefan, as we seemed to be the only people on AIM a lot of the time and just had a bond through that. I accepted, but Stefan seemed hesitant, which would foster my opinion on him a bit later in the game. His response to joining the alliance (and afterwords I talked to him personally about it) didn't seem too enthusiastic, which is why I never considered him a true ally. I was glad, however, to have John on my side. Despite being someone who seemed to want the game to go his way and to seize control, he was a good person to have on your side. When the next stage of the game hit, we focused on trying to win challenges again, and the Pin-Up girl tribe did pretty well overall. While on this tribe, I formed a very close bond with Peter (the person I would become closest to in the game), and we made an alliance and threw around potential other alliances (Anna). Although we talked about them and got close with people, we never actually made an alliance with others as a unit. When we did lose, we voted off Nancy, which was kind of a no-brainer. Then, John and Micah joined the tribe. This was the perfect time to reconnect with John and start talking with Micah. Micah and me seemed to click in an instant, and through talking with him, I learned he really wasn't close with anyone else and would be very willing to work with me. After hearing that and because of the instant bond of sorts that we did have, I did everything in my power to build a relationship with Micah and keep him on my side. Going into the merge, I found all three hidden immunity idols on my own, with only the clue we all received ("It's a horror movie"). Actually, I found the first one BEFORE I even noticed we had that clue because.... well, I think we all figured it could probably be a horror movie considering the theme. xD The first two votes were easy -- I suggested Eva and then Jack -- and that's how it went. Everyone seemed to be "going with the flow", but I knew things weren't that easy. I just wanted to keep around the people I was closest to, the people I had been forming at least some bonds with (like Lawrence), and the people from my former Pin-Up tribe... at least going into the coming rounds. Here's where the game really got complicated; the double Tribal Council. This is also where a lot of my motives might be questioned and i'm sure i'll be answering a lot of questions about what I did, so i'm going to keep it short -- my main goal was to advance myself and my two main allies, Peter and Micah, in the game. During the auction I played the "friend", helping everyone to get a prize, but with the exception of a few prizes, I actually manipulated some people into getting things I wanted so it would work out for me. When Anna was in apparent "danger" (or was she ...?), I gave her immunity to keep her safe. Although I don't regret this move, Anna would turn out to be someone who would actually gun for me in this game, and I can see why. I believe she thinks I am her strongest competition because of the game I played. However, during that round, some big players left, and it got down to the nitty gritty and where lines were drawn in the game. From this point on, my strategy was to do the best I could to advance in the game, including if that meant leading some people on. I knew I could get myself and Peter (and I had hoped Micah but made one error) forward in the game with my idols, so my focus was just keeping John on my side as I knew he would be pivotal in a few of the coming votes. This managed to be a success, and even as much of a dick move as it was, I convinced him to vote for Peter at the Final 4, knowing that Anna was voting for me, while myself and Peter took John out since Anna was immune. That's basically the broad overview of my game -- but there's a lot more to it and i'm willing to answer. This is already longer than I wanted it to be, and not quite as witty as I would like it, but it gives you a good idea of what went on. I was a big player in this game -- I built strong relationships with those I did build them with, and do feel bad about those I did not get to build one with (Abby, for example). However, at no point in this game did I feel in true danger. I always felt relatively confident. I was a big social player in the game, and on top of that, I found all three of the hidden immunity idols from almost the beginning of the merge, and made sure to hold on to them to be able to use them to my advantage for as long as possible. I built alliances that would help advance me in the game, and when alliances would or might fail, I had to manipulate situations to do so. I do regret that I didn't have the opportunity to give my all in a lot of the competitions in this game, because I have no doubt that I would have stood a great shot at winning them, but it is what it is and i'm still very happy with the game I played. My final statement that I do ask is that you look past voting personally and think about voting for who deserves to win this game based on gameplay. I do realize that some of the moves I made may seem questionable on a moral level, but on a gameplay level, I do think I played this game the best of the Final 3, and the relationships I built were real. Thank you to the hosts and everyone for a great and fun game! It's been fun and it went fast, and I had a blast.
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Post by Caleb Danvers on Jul 17, 2011 22:33:46 GMT -5
Even though it wasn't witty, so much for that not being long. Sorry guys.
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Post by Anna Ivers on Jul 18, 2011 2:01:17 GMT -5
Hey Jury, I'm somewhat happy this game is finally coming into an end! Some of you are maybe not happy to see my face, but hopefully you're not going to hold any grudges against me because I brought my mask I used in my diaries to hide my visage. This is a long opening statement, but I think I have a lot to say and there's a lot to read for people who knew nothing about me. So just to make it easier to read, I'm going to add some colors to parts.
So once I entered into this game, it was my first game of this series, I don't know past friendships between people and I did not recognize a single AIM in the AIM lists... you were all complete strangers to me.
So I started out this game in the Killers tribe, that I pretty much called the "Ghosts tribe" because me and Jack were the ONLY active people from that tribe and it's the suckiest tribe I have ever been on in my entire ORG life. Another thing that could injure my gameplay... because I couldn't really establish many connections right off the bat, because there wasn't any variety of people to talk to. So we got rid of Rebecca, our first inactive, very easy vote.
Then, gladly, we switched tribe and I ended up on the Pin-Up Girls tribe, consisting of Nancy, Zoe, Caleb, Peter, Stefan and myself. So in that tribe, Zoe and Caleb were strong players, and I already looked at them as threats in the game eventually. I didn't intend taking them out so early but just keeping an eye on what they do, what they say. We lost our first challenge, and I got myself into an alliance with Peter & Caleb. Peter's the one that got me into it by the way, not Caleb. We got rid of Nancy because she was MIA and kinda useless.
Then, at our next tribal council, me and Peter both wanted out Zoe for the same reasons, so we joined our forces to vote her together and Caleb got into the plan too. So the Pin-Up Girls tribe wasn't really scary for me, I was pretty confident we would merge way before I get to be in trouble. And it happened, we merged...
We were twelve, and my only alliance at the time was Me, Caleb & Peter. But obviously, I don't play blindfolded game, you could so easily tell by the way Caleb was talking who were his other alliances and he had a lot. But because I had a hard time being online in the first two rounds of the merge, Eva and Jack were "easy votes" in the sense that there were no argues about it and those votes did not bother anyone.
Then it's where I came back available, with a lot of time to spend for this game. It was final 10, and A LOT WENT DOWN THAT ROUND, LONG PART! I could already tell Caleb was the godfather of the place. I knew Caleb wanted to come after the vampires soon or later, so I started contacting the vampires to get the talk started. I intended jumping to their side very soon to turn on my alliance that I did not really trust, like I would look at them and I would look at it like it was a pyramid scheme or something. But then things had to get harder, we had an auction challenge. That's where the whole game sort of shifted. I went through all the prizes and analysed which one was the best for me, one by one. I decided to go for the Hidden Immunity Idol, the best item to guarantee your safety in this game OR to blindside someone with it without having to get majority on my side.
But then I went away for an hour or two, and when I came back, surprise! Caleb was helping John to get the hidden immunity idol behind my back. I immediately asked caleb to help me get it, and I could just see that look in his face "huh oh... they both want it, what do I do..." As soon as Caleb posted 95$, I snitched the idol from John. Just that made me want to flip on them right away. Then I went for a walk to find all the idols, coming too late, I didn't expect so much because I knew it was very possible they could be found, and I was shocked... I found the three of them within 45 minutes. They were all gone! It was just so sure that whoever had one... had three! So I told Caleb to tell me if he had them, and he told me he had the three of them. I believe he only told me because he feared lying to me or me to find out about them, but I knew had I not found them and told him, he NEVER would of told me about them. Just with that, it's clear I wasn't in Caleb's priorities list.
Then, just a bit later, Caleb approached me and ratted out Selene & John that they were trying to get rid of me. I talked to Selene immediately just a get-to-know what she's gonna do, and I could feel the vibe of her wanting me gone and hiding stuff to me. [And a few days later, to spice things up, I told all the vampires that John ratted their plan out to me when it fact it was Caleb.]
so the auction was over, and Eric decided to split the tribes... SENDING ME on that specific tribe just to get rid of me with the help of that idol nullifier. That move from him seriously made me feel stupid wanting to flip to the vampires. I threw that idea out of the window immediately.
It was me, abby, eric, selene and stefan. Knowing Stefan had a vote canceller, he was my only hope to convince. But regardless of whatever I was saying, whatever arguments I was trying to make, he wouldn't budge... So I was down to one last solution at that moment...
I went in the challenge thread and made a fake post of me handing my HII to Peter. we're supposed to post it in our confessional, so posted there it never counted. I was ready to play my idol on Selene for revenger on that plan to get rid of me. Like why would you keep somebody who was gunning for you like 24 hours ago!? And even if she didn't intend on doing it, she never told me anything, so there was no reason to trust her. I was just hoping she wouldn't use her idol nullifier.
Unfortunately, we will never know if it would of worked out because Caleb had another surprise prize, that was "give your immunity to somebody of the other tribe". Of course, I was in an alliance with him and he was gunning for those vampires, so why would he give it to them?! He gave it to me and I was safe. Pay back for that Tribe's twist, I was now in complete control of their tribe.
Selene and Eric were asking for my help, so I told them "we vote for Stefan", they agreed, then the next thing I did is rat them out to Stefan. I really wanted to get Selene out, because everybody loved her, and if it wasn't for her to go home that day, I think she would be sitting in the finales now, she was a really dangerous player, and the fact that we were in a tribe of 5, it was the perfect time to squeeze her and get votes against her, regardless of whatever happens after. She had to go, that's all. Abby was really easy to convince, I was shocked at how quick she changed her vote to Selene, and she even ratted out John by sending me his convos about him wanting to get rid of me, so that pretty much confirmed it was John that had the idea to vote me out, or at least helped the most to make it happen. Then, Stefan was a lot harder to convince to use his vote canceller on Selene. She went home 3-2.
Also, Selene wanted to give her idol nullifier to Caleb, that pissed me because I really didn't want him to have that in his hands, especially when I have an idol in my pocket. So I kept asking her to give it to me instead, but she wouldn't budge. That didn't make me vote her out more, as Caleb told me he was going to use it. I was just dancing on place when I heard that, like you have a power and you're going to waste it when you know Lawrence doesn't have an idol? That's just either nonsense or overconfidence.
Lawrence went home, and that did not bother me, because I felt like Lawrence had a sort of deal with Caleb, so all it did was weaken him just a bit more and I never talked to Lawrence anyways.
Then we were down to EIGHT... Caleb said that Micah was now our fourth in our alliance. Caleb wanted me to use my idol saying "we all play our idols together so us four make it to top 7 for sure", but I did not believe it. I think he just wanted me to waste it. So I felt like immunity was sort of crucial, just for the fact that I could have an easy excuse not to play it. And I won it. Caleb then said he wanted to add Eric as fifth in our alliance. I was like woahh minute buddy, five, that's too many, if you said you wanted Eric as fifth then that means he's getting too close to you while Stefan and Abby are less close to you because you want them out. Plus, what's the point of having a fifth one? Add more competition to the "alliance"? So I pushed hard for Eric to go, I believed he could be a stick in my wheels and I wanted to reenforce my safety by keeping people he doesn't want to keep, like Abby and Stefan. My pushing was hard but it worked, and Eric went home. Then I had to announce we were having a double tribal council!
We were down to Me, Micah, Peter, Caleb, John, Abby and Stefan. I did not trust Caleb to want me to the final three and he was way too confident that Micah was totally with him. Everytime I was questionning him about Micah's loyalty, he just kept being confident about totally having him, so I decided to flip on him and jump ship with John, Abby and Stefan to vote him out. But at the same time, I did not really care if Micah stayed IF Caleb played all his three idols (because then I would be the only one with an idol the next round so them being three would not budge me and I knew they were gunning for Abby), so I threatened him to play them and told him the truth "I am voting one of you three, so it is in your best interest that each of you play an idol." He never did, and instead gave his idol to John thinking he was voting with them. His overconfidence and arrogance costed Micah's game a lot more than my selfish side of me.
So then, we were down to final six, I knew who were playing idols, so it was down between Abby and Stefan. John wanted Abby out to keep Stefan, but the thing is I really prefered Abby over Stefan because I could trust her so much more. I don't know why, but the way cards were falling, I really trusted Abby and I was talking to her more and more and more. So I gave her my idol, and Stefan went home.
Then we were down to five, and that's were I was pretty much victim of John's ignorance. I was expecting John to be smart enough to keep Abby and vote out Caleb, because you could tell the difference of threatenance. And it would of been soo much more intelligent of him. And also for me, knowing I wanted her and Peter to the finales. But he lied to my face when it was totally unnecessary of him and Abby went home 3-2. I felt like "Right... maybe he did a good move after all, because it forces me to take him to the finales and vote Caleb next round instead and it gives him some past votes."
But no, next round, I just can't believe it, John was lying straight to my face AGAIN, when we are on Final 4, I have immunity, and he's telling me we vote for Caleb. I suspected him he was going to vote for Peter so I just kept going to Peter and ask him to vote for Caleb, that's the only reason I kept going to Peter. But then it was just completely ridiculous, he voted Peter and sent himself home 2-1-1. So if my ideal finales did not happen, it was solely because of his bad moves, not mine.
I think my game was well-calculated and even if there were many rounds I could of need immunity, I still had an idol in my pocket, and I definitely could stir smarter shit to stay. I'm far from the person who's told "you go home" and I do nothing. I think I controlled many of the votes and if Caleb did not go home, I think it's because Caleb lucked out a lot from this game. He found three idols, which I call luckiness because they are the most easy idol passwords I've ever seen in my life "1408, silence of the lambs and Poltergeist". Like if they were harder, then three different people could find them you know. Caleb is not a smartass, all he did was benefiting help from EVERYONE. And he did not only get help from everyone because he's smart, I believe all it is, it's a group effect. There's always someone in that position whether you want it or not, and it was him. Once you're lucky to have that, playing the game is quite easy... I played on my own, and I deserve much more the million than Caleb does.
And why do I deserve it more than Peter? Because he played under Caleb's tongue the whole time. Caleb lucked out a lot from this too, he got himself one total sheep. That's a lot of help in this game... a sheep that's never going to turn on you or even overthink you.
Caleb was sort of like the Rob Mariano, Peter was like his Natalie, and me, I was sort of like his Andrea except that I had my eyes a lot more opened and won immunities instead of losing them.
I don't think I needed immunities because I did bad moves, I think I was in trouble because I was a THREAT, I was somebody that was "thinking too much", somebody that "was playing on her own and doing her own moves". And I don't play sheep game. Now that I made it to the end, I think I deserve the title of sole survivor, I'm the one who played the strongest and smartest. I never played emotional, I always played based with my head and more importantly, very strong intuition.
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Post by Peter on Jul 18, 2011 9:24:43 GMT -5
Im not going to give a long speal like anna or caleb, quite frankly im sure the members of the jury dont want to read something that long so I will make mine as short as possible, We all played a good game all very different strategies, me i stuck to my word that I gave to people as played hard through the whole game and I beat the odds coming from an original tribe that lost almost every challenge at the very beginning, and I was able to make it to the final 3
As far as everyone knows Anna excuse my language played the game as a complete Bitch, it is possible to play the game with integrity and be loyal to whom you said you would be she is the perfect example of a back stabber and the only reason she made it to the finals is because she got lucky, and we should have voted her ass out and caleb didnt give her the idol and someone more deserving should be in her spot.
And I can not sit here and say anything bad about Caleb, him and I stuck together through the entire game, even when we had people telling us to vote each other out. And there may be people that call me his lap dog or what not, but that is incorrect, we formed an alliance to further our game, which it did. As well there were many times during the game where Caleb had no clue where my head was and what I was going to do, so i was no ones lap dog it was purely strategic game play, and Anna stated that she kepytcoming to me for help so obviously I was a good person to have on ones side, and I must have done something right to make it to the final 3
I played a very intelligent game being loyal to my alliance untiil the end, and John it was either you or Caleb that I had to chose between and the reason I chose Caleb is because I could not trust you as much as I could him and obviously my hunch was correct, because you voted me. Did I manipulate people? Did i back stab anyone? No, so I am a good example how someone can have a great game play but keep his word to the people he gave it to
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Post by Caleb Danvers on Jul 18, 2011 20:30:58 GMT -5
I just wanted to address some things that involved ME in Anna's Opening Statement. There's no where else to really do so, which is why i'm doing it here, but there are some points regarding me that need to be addressed. Then, gladly, we switched tribe and I ended up on the Pin-Up Girls tribe, consisting of Nancy, Zoe, Caleb, Peter, Stefan and myself. So in that tribe, Zoe and Caleb were strong players, and I already looked at them as threats in the game eventually. I didn't intend taking them out so early but just keeping an eye on what they do, what they say. We lost our first challenge, and I got myself into an alliance with Peter & Caleb. Peter's the one that got me into it by the way, not Caleb. . First off, I never AGREED to an alliance with you. So if you thought we were aligned because Peter said it, kudos to you. We never said the word alliance -- there were points in this game where I agreed to work with you, or wanted to look like I was working with you, but I never considered you an ally. Me and Peter TALKED about making you an ally, but never did. Don't think you were responsible for this vote. Everyone pretty much agreed on Zoe going. She kind of went inactive. It wasn't a mastermind plan... Uhm..... a LOT to clear up here. First off, I never did anything "behind your back". I was helping people get what they wanted, and I never said I would help you get the Idol before helping John make his way to it by increasing the payments. Since I knew how much John wanted to control the game, I told you I would help you get the Idol because I felt a bit uncomfortable with him holding it -- here I will give you credit, because little did I know the damage you would try to wreak having it. However, once I posted $95, I told you to post right away to get the Idol! You didn't "snatch" anything. On top of it, you never ASKED me if I had the Idols. After giving you the immunity that round, I TOLD you that myself. So it seems like you're trying to make it like you did a lot more than you did here. You don't seem to understand the point of me getting Selene to give me the idol nullifier. I did that because of the fact that I had the three idols, and didn't want it in anyone else's hands so that I could play my idols or have them played when I wanted to. Since after that round only three would be left in the game that allowed idols to be played (all potentially to play my idols), I knew I did not need the idol nullifier. Since I had deals with everyone on my "tribe" at the "tribe split" except for Lawrence, I used the idol nullifier to get Lawrence out as he was the only one there I did not have some sort of alliance with, and I could play it off as if maybe he had an Idol and me using the idol nullifier was our chance to get him out of the game while really it was to do away with it and make it seem to people I did not want to know I had them that maybe I did not have the idols and was nervous about others having them. We didn't have a deal. So there. But we were friends. Actually, I would have done this. I did not want to take you to the finals, you know I wanted Micah and Peter there, but I actually wanted all the idols played and out of the game and it insured four people moving on that I felt somewhat comfortable with until I realized you would try to take control of the game and obviously no longer agreed to that plan. I actually didn't want you to "waste" your Idol, though. Let's not forget you won a "Majority Rules" competition when half the cast wasn't there because it was 4th of July weekend and a live competition. Like most of the competitions you won, you won because a lot of other people in the cast had time constraints or other things to do while you did the challenge. Sorry, it's the truth. I give you credit for the long puzzle challenge, but other than that, none of your wins truly impressed me. [/color][/quote] Erm... I never suggested Eric as a fifth member of an alliance. All I said was that I thought we should split up Abby & Stefan because I thought they were might be close and because I would have liked Abby out because we never talked and I figured you two might be close. Just because I didn't want to go along with your vote does not mean I wanted him in an alliance. I did not want Eric out that round, but was away for my birthday weekend, and so went with the plan since most people were down for it and I had no time to try to pull something else. This has nothing to do with overconfidence and arrogance. Actually, if anything, I was not greedy or arrogant. You said yourself you simply wanted me to play my idols so you were the only one that would have one. My thing was, I would NOT let that happen. Because of that, I made the decision that I was not going to give into the plans of someone like you and just give you what you want -- I was making sure NONE of my idols were played. So, I tried to get people to vote Abby. I will say, this plan failed. However, you are wrong ONCE AGAIN. Because guess what? I passed one of my idols to Peter THIS ROUND just in case I left, I wanted him to have one for the next. I was also going to pass one to Micah but before I could make that decision he had logged off. I knew you guys weren't voting for Peter thanks to John, and I knew you wouldn't vote for me - since I held three idols and you threatened me, it would be stupid to. I figured you MIGHT vote Micah, but since I did not have time to switch it up and hand him the idol, I worked John. I agreed to John that I would give him an idol the next round of the game if he voted Abby. However, he would only do so if I gave him one this round. Literally in the last minutes, I agreed to it if he switched his vote. He lied and said he did, which was fine, because when I told him I gave him the idol to get him to do so, I lied. He then asked Dollface when she logged on if he had the idol. She said he didn't -- well, that's because I DID NOT send it. However, I got nervous and didn't want to come across as a liar on something so crucial at that point in the game, so I told Dollface to give him my idol now. Almost immediately after, TC results were posted and it was revealed he did not in fact vote Abby as he had promised. I felt stupid for getting nervous and prematurely giving him one of my HII's, but it was what it was. I knew going into next round I had one and that's all that mattered since someone would most likely get auto-voted out because of immunity and all of the idols. However, if I had not gotten nervous about coming across as a liar and actually waited to see TC first [aka had Dollface not come on AIM ] you best believe John in fact would not have had his hands on one of those idols if I saw that he voted for Micah -- at least not until the next round when I was choosing who was best to keep around. This was not just you. It came down to me and you. Basically, it came down to immunity. If me or you won Immunity, Stefan was going. If John won, Abby was going. If Peter won, he had his pick -- but Peter couldn't compete in Immunity, so it was down to just us three. Basically, me and you were on the same page -- remove one of John's loyal allies. You wanted Abby around because she was close to you, if it came down to Abby or Stefan, I wanted Stefan out just because it would bring John closer to me in the finals rounds when I would need him and I believed John would be willing to vote out Abby as opposed to Stefan. I actually really did like, Stefan, though. That has nothing to do with ignorance. It had to do with who John felt close to. He built better bonds with me and Peter, and because of that, obviously chose to vote out YOUR ally, Abby. It was in fact not ignorant. Actually, had you not won final Immunity, you would be on Jury, not John, so it was a smart move to not let your ally advance and potentially be in danger -- even though he was, in reality, in danger either way. Again, how is this to blame on HIM? You tried to get me out or set me up to get me out by using my idols multiple times, and failed ALL OF THOSE TIMES. Those are your bad moves. You know why? Again, as dick as it was, I managed to convince John I was still taking him to finals after our rough bumpy patches in the game. I, in the end, built a stronger connection with him than YOU did. That is a bad move on YOUR end, because your social bond with John was not as strong as mine. He trusted me more than you, and chose me over you. That is not all attributed to him. That is you, also. So don't get too full of yourself. I think you are grasping at straws supremely. I will admit that you put up good arguments, but you seem to fail to realize points. I did not get ahead because of a "group effect"... you targeted me the last two Tribal Councils, and I didn't get voted out because of my own doing and the bonds I built. The rest of the game, I got ahead... because of the CONNECTIONS I BUILT with people and how I played this game, as Selene said. It was not "luck", and it was certainly not "help from everyone". If you felt like a loner in this game, you want to know why that was? Because of the way you played it. The immunities you won I wasn't even able to compete to my fullest, yet you take credit that you won those and they saved you because you were "such a threat". No, you were a target to people because of bad social/strategic gameplay and people saw you as someone they wanted out. As far as the idols go and me not finding them by being smart. Well, you're right, it didn't take intelligence to find them. But guess what? They weren't THAT easy. I went through a shitload of scary movies to find those three idols. But you know what separates me from you? I knew someone would find them, and so I searched for them as soon as possible, before someone else could get their hands on them, before someone was even at Exile. And I made sure to get them all in MY hands. That's what makes me smart. So maybe it didn't take a lot of intelligence to find them. But I made sure to get them before you could. So "if it was harder maybe three people could have found them"... guess what, even if it was easier, three different people STILL could have found them. But they didn't. Because I got to them first. Point blank, period. It seems like you're focusing a lot on hating on me and getting people to believe my game wasn't good rather than focusing on your own. Well, that's a compliment considering his latest game. Done.
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Post by Anna Ivers on Jul 18, 2011 21:53:50 GMT -5
Good, then why am I being called a backstabber and a liar that turns on their alliance? Anyways, I know that you never said the word alliance to me and that's why I stated that Peter got me "involved" in it. Also, here's an interesting thing: I never said it was a mastermind plan, now you're flying off on your witch broomstick. Nope, you were not helping me get it at all. And you never told me to go post for the idol. All you did is tell me "I'll post it in ten seconds" and it didn't take 10 seconds at all. You were TOTALLY helping John, Caleb. You guys were posting BACK TO BACK when I went afk and I still remember you telling me "hey you there?" "hey you there" then once you stopped saying that you started helping John, that's why I said you were helping him behind my back. YES I ASKED YOU IF YOU HAD THE IDOLS! I sent you this: """Hey be careful, maybe it's you and I don't know ( but it would be really kind to tell me if it was xD ) but... all three idols are found. I just cracked them all... all founds =/ """ And you replied this: """ Yup, i have them all. don't tell anyone.I'm trying to get Selene to use her Idol Avoidance on my tribe this round, or at least give it to me to use, so that I can "vote off Lawrence" and prevent him from idoling me out. I made up some lie why I gave you the immunity, saying that Eric told me there is this huge alliance in the game and they're coming after me, and the way he split the tribes screwed me over, so if I was going to go I wanted him to go down with me. Really he did tell me all of this; AFTER I gave you Immunity. Basically, if I can get Selene to use Idol Avoidance this round, my plan next round is to rope Micah in... me you Peter Micah easy final 4. We all play an Idol next round guaranteeing we all stay since the idols are only good up through final 6 anyways, and if we do that we all guarantee ourselves majority final 7 on and will easily run the game to top 4. How you feel about that? """ So what's the point of replying to all my statements when you don't even make any sense? I only read half this paragraph because this is total bullshit, you're telling me you used it because you didn't need it? I had an idol for the record? Lawrence could not have any?? If you were smart you could keep it for a round you could want me gone. You just so don't make sense. You only played it for the heck of it, because you thought you sooo had this game in the pocket. *Cough* Look up... I don't believe you, all playing our idols on Final 7 makes absolutely no sense. I'm sorry but you guys were totally there for the challenges, you only fleed them. I won a majority rules competition when half the cast wasn't there, who cares? Anybody could win that one I admit it wasn't the most impressing but then it was most posts in 10 minutes, and I totally raped you guys when you DID try it. Then the puzzle, you gave credit, thank you. Then in the final challenge, I did ONE try, john did SIX. I won it, if my wins werent impressive, then one thing is for sure, you guys were lame like fuck at those challenges. Bullshit again, Mister. dust1330 (13:30:37): Well, what I thought, it's that we vote Eric first because it's very easy to get our enemy to vote for him, so that lowers the amount of people to 7 dust1330 (13:30:46): Then it's us vs Abby, Stefan and John Joey Dz (13:30:50): right Joey Dz (13:30:58): I just feel like i'd rather him be fifth to our four Yep, it was a total failure of you, and I'll tell you why: its because either way would of totally worked out for me. Either you three play your idols and Abby goes home, then I'm the only one left with an idol. Or you don't play any idols and Micah goes home. Then, all idols are still in the guy, and I could save Abby from the next vote by handing her an idol and guaranteeing Stefan to go. Both ways, totally advantageous for me. Bullshit, i remember seeing your three people online 30 minutes before the deadline. You kept naviguating the board over and over. Blah Blah Blah I didn,t even read more than 33% of this because it's just you talking, not you replying to my stuff. Yes... that's a little move I regret a little, but I think it was still a worthy risk to keep Abby over Stefan. And suck up to Stefan's jury vote more. Yes, I did say it was a smart move from John, why are you telling me that? I thought I already said that... Why blame on him? Because anyone smart would of voted you out EVEN IF THEY HAVE A BETTER BOND WITH THEM. And about me failing to vote you off all those times, let's point out that I never prepared any plans to vote you off until Final Five, first of all, and when I tried to take your idols out it was either you play them all or you lose an ally, thats it, point blank, it was advantageous for me on both ends. Then on final 5, it failed, good move from John, but you can't do all the good moves in this game. Then Final 4, I failed to take you out because John did not make the right move. Who is going to take out Peter on Final 4 when he has 1% chance winning? I mean come on, that's totally not right of him, totally not. I was unavailable on the first two rounds to search for the idols, sure, and I can't push other people to search more. I'm sorry, I still believe it's a lot of luck. That's not a compliment, I believe Rob lucked out a lot in that game. Sooo before you spend 30 minutes replying bullshit and look like a total fool that doesnt know what he talks about, you should think twice.
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Post by Caleb Danvers on Jul 18, 2011 22:16:22 GMT -5
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Post by Anna Ivers on Jul 18, 2011 22:34:44 GMT -5
Now, you don't make sense anymore, you were not telling me you were LYING to me about the alliance, you were telling me that you NEVER TOLD ME that we had an alliance, stop twisting things around. And what the fuck is that thing about John doing it faster than me? It took a total of 6 hours, minus the Big Brother hour, and minus all the breaks I took. And I FINISHED it instead of doing it 3/4, and who knows wtf is 3/4 for him.
And no I didn't want you out or you using all your idols now you're talking bullshit again. It was either you lose your ally Micah or you play your three idols, I got what I wanted, thank you.
It seems like you've lied so much in this game that you're totally forgetting all the alliances and stuff that you've told me, it's crazy.
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Post by Caleb Danvers on Jul 18, 2011 22:53:48 GMT -5
When I said we didn't have an alliance, I was referring to you talking about me you and Peter since I never agreed to that with you. However, as for the other "final 4", it still wasn't an alliance. We were "working together" but both obviously just stringing each other along. We never said we wouldn't vote each other or anything, we weren't aligned. But I was lying to you in regards to even wanting you around that long, yes. And John was done with 3/4 of the puzzle in 2 hours according to him, so my point was, you had since it was posted to do it, not all of us did. But obviously this will get us nowhere. So im not going to keep arguing. My main issue was with a lot of the original points you made.
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Post by Anna Ivers on Jul 18, 2011 22:58:39 GMT -5
Okay so now you're telling me that you never agreed to it? Seriouslty? Look at this... I also like how didn't reply anything to that one...
PUZZLE: I did not start as soon as it was posted first of all, and second of all, I don't believe JOhn really had 75% of the puzzle done, the remaining 25% of the puzzle, when white pieces become impossible to find around, it's even longer than the beginning of the puzzle. He was far from being done with that puzzle trust me.
Yeah, I sincerely hope you had issues with them, because they were truth facts while all you did was replying with bullshit and 75% of stuff that wasn't true.
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Post by Caleb Danvers on Jul 18, 2011 23:03:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I did say that to use all of our idols, but then you never agreed to the plan, so I didn't agree to that. lol... I did reply to that but it was about the idol thing, which you don't believe, and we can never debate because of the fact that it didn't happen so we can't prove it would or wouldn't have.
And lol ok whatever you say Anna. The only thing you were right on was you coming to me about the idols first. Everything else YOU said was bullshit. So give me a break.
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Post by Anna Ivers on Jul 18, 2011 23:04:57 GMT -5
No, I haven't said any bullshit.
And there is also a thing that I totally forgot to point out... When Caleb said (Final 7) that he intended making sure NOBODY PLAYS IDOL and gave one to John? How is that smart of him if he truly wanted to keep Micah around? Because then I win immunity, I have an idol, John has one, Caleb has one, Peter has one... then what about Micah? I don't think Caleb had played this game calculating things.
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